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    Suverans2 3 years 21 weeks ago Web link Melinda L. Secor
    I don't believe that it was the Patriot Acts that stripped "citizens" of their "free-speech rights". "Citizens" are members of a political community who, in their associated capacity, have established or submitted themselves to the dominion of a government for the promotion of their general welfare and the protection of their individual as well as collective rights. ~ Herriot v. City of Seattle, 81 Wash.2d 48, 5000 P.2d 101, 109 ~ Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition (c.1991), page 244 Dominion. Generally accepted definition of "dominion" is perfect control in right of ownership. The word implies both title and possession and appears to require a complete retention of control over disposition. Eastex Aviation, Inc. v. Sperry & Hutchinson Co., C.A.Tex., 522 F.2d 1299, 1307 ~ Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition (c.1991), page 486 Conclusion, if you are a member of a political community, you have, most times ignorantly, submitted yourself to the dominion of a government. If you happen to be one of those who claim that this "social contract" doesn't meet all the criteria of a contract, you very well may be right. However... Contract. ...Express or implied. ...An implied contract is one not created or evidenced by the explicit agreement of the parties, but inferred by the law [government], as a matter of reason and justice from their [your] acts or conduct, the circumstances indicating that he expects [you expect] to be paid therefor, and defendant, knowing such circumstances, avails himself of benefits of those services. Chem-Tronix Laboratories, Inc. v. Solocast Co., A.D., 5 Conn.Cir. 533 , 258 A.2d 110, 113. It is an agreement which legitimately can be inferred from intention of parties as evidenced by circumstances and ordinary course of dealing and common understanding of men. Martin v. Little, Brown & Co., 304 Pa.Super. 424, 450 A2d. 984, 987 Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition (c.1991), page 323 ...if one fails to manifestly rebut that "rebuttable presumption[1]", once he discovers the "mistake" he has made, he will remain under this "implied contract", regardless of how much he may moan and groan about it. Mistake. Some unintentional act, omission, or error arising from ignorance, surprise, imposition, or misplaced confidence. A state of mind not in accord with reality. A mistake exists when a person, under some erroneous conviction of law or fact, does, or omits to do, some act which, but for the erroneous conviction, he would not have done or omitted. It may arise either from unconsciousness, ignorance, forgetfulness, imposition, or misplaced confidence. Salazar v. Steelman, 22 cal.App.2d 402, 71 P.2d 79, 82 See also Error; Ignorance. ~ Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition (c.1991), page 1001 And, instead of crying that there is no such thing as an "implied contract", why not simply rebut the presumption and be done with it. But, I suspect that many of us here already know most of this. ______________________________________________________________________________________ [1] Rebuttable presumption. In the law of evidence, a presumption which may be rebutted by evidence. Otherwise called a "disputable" presumption. A species of legal presumption which holds good until evidence contrary to it is introduced. Beck v. Kansas City Public Service Co., Mo.App., 48 S.W.2d 213, 215. It shifts burden of proof. Heiner v. Donnan, 285 U.S. 312, 52 S.Ct. 358, 362, 76 L.Ed. 772. It gives particular effect to certain group of facts in absence of further evidence, and presumption provides prima facie case which shifts to defendant the burden to go forward with evidence to contradict or rebut fact presumed. Gulle v. Boggs, Fla., 174 So.2d 26, 28. And which standing alone will support a finding against contradictory evidence. Lieber v. Rigby, 34 Cal.App.2d 582, 94 P.2d 49, 50. ~ Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition (c.1991), page 1267
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    Suverans2 3 years 21 weeks ago
    In Defense of the 1%
    Web link Melinda L. Secor
    “An Open Message to the 99% (Occupy Wall Street)” Found it on “The Rule of Freedom” Facebook
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    Suverans2 3 years 21 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    This is for rita. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=188072631240640&set=a.1880701945... She'll know how to use it. ;)
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    Suverans2 3 years 21 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/313315_240327869348...
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    A little more on the law of free men and women. "...there are those libertarians who would simply and uncritically adopt the common law, despite its many anti-libertarian flaws." ~ Introduction to Natural Law by Murray N. Rothbard
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    "The natural law always buries its undertakers." ~ Etienne Gilson
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    The STR quote of the day for 10/29/2011 will be a fitting reply to the above comment. "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action, according to our will, within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others." ~ Thomas Jefferson
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    vivianC 3 years 22 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    legalization of marijuana both has good and bad effect but I guess if the government will put some restrictions on the way patient will use it, I don't see any problem with it. Anyway another controversial bill regarding legalization is now on the processed. According to the article I read awhile ago, The state of Hawaii could be the fourth to enact a “Death with Dignity” law permitting terminally ill individuals to commit physician-assisted suicide. Many believe that the terminally ill should be able to determine their own death if they desire to end their suffering, but there are an equal number of people that don't agree. Source of article: Hawaii might already have Death with Dignity law
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    "Your submission has triggered the spam filter and will not be accepted." I'll have to edit the above post in the morning, scott free 68, to give you the additional information links I have for you. We've been having trouble with the spam filter here, seems like, forever.
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    scott_free_68 3 years 22 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    I believe the number in favor is higher. The key to legalization is reclassification of the cannibis plant. the narcotic label is the problem. the legislation against cannibis makes it a commodity. Everyman should have the right to grow, harvest and ingest it as they see fit. If this were the case, it would be devalued to the point of being nearly worthless, no longer able to be bought, sold or traded for profit. I believe this will not be allowed to happen because self medication would devastate the health care money machine. the toxins doctors prescribe would be shunned, drug sales would plummet, insurance companies would lose their meal ticket and investors would lose their asses in the great turning away from medicine for profit. What a blow this would be to our corrupt oppressors, to take away the ridiculous premium we pay to ease our aches and pains. Stress is a killer. There is no arguement for that. The sense of peace from self medicating would lower bloodpressure, relieve anxiety, ease depression and improve the quality of life for so many, it's no wonder they see it as such a huge threat...to their investment portfolios! I could say so much more but since this is my first post, I'll keep it concise and to the point.
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago Web link Mike Powers
    "One can only guess whether the republic can survive another decade of the destructive war on freedom waged under the banner of anti-terrorism." What "republic"?
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago Page Westernerd
    "...[T]he centuries-old tradition of common law" is not one of our "real...heroes"; it is the Natural Law that is our "real hero". Recommended reading: Natural Law by Frank van Dun, Ph.D., Dr.Jur. - Senior lecturer Philosophy of Law.
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    "I give you this one rule of conduct. Do what you will, but speak out always. Be shunned, be hated, be ridiculed, be scared, be in doubt, but don’t be gagged. The time of trial is always. Now is the appointed time." ~ John J. Chapman, Commencement Address to the Graduating Class of Hobart College, 1900
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago Page Glen Allport
    Horribly right, Glen Allport. This is just one of the many reasons my wife and I decided to secede from the U.S. corporation[1] and all of its franchises (States). And, no, we are not foolish enough to think that this decision will somehow protect us from what is about to happen, we just want to be able to say that once we began to see what was going on, we chose to no longer "take part in the lie[2]". _______________________________________________________________________ [1] ″Despite all the flags fluttering on First Avenue there are no nations any more, only companies; International companies.″ ~ Kuman-Kuman (Character in the movie The Interpreter) [2] "The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie." ~ Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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    Augydoggy 3 years 22 weeks ago Page Glen Allport
    I am old and gray, my eyes don'st see to good and i am hard of hearing/ But I can read. You sir have hit the nail right on the head. At my age i am fearful for all that I have worked and payed for will be gone. I fear for my children and grandchildren. I thank you for what you have written,
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    Peter McCandless 3 years 22 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    See Larken Rose's book entitled "How to be a Successful Tyrant." Contains lots of useful techniques that tyrants have utilized through the ages.
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    Sound advice, IMO, Paul Bonneau. Someone else, a couple of thousand years back, gave similar advice. "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom." And, where is this "kingdom" he speaks of? (113) His disciples said to him, “When will the Kingdom come?” Yahu’shua [JESUS] said, “It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying ‘Here it is’ or ‘There it is.’ Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it.”
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    G'day Sam, Hope you enjoy Frank's treatise as much as I did, brother. One discrepancy I find with what you just wrote, according to "that book", I believe it talks about a "...government of the Creator, by the Anointed. ANOINT The use of oil in consecrations, was of high antiquity. Kings, prophets and priests were set apart or consecrated to their offices by the use of oil. ~ Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language And, who are the "anointed"? "Ye are a...royal priesthood" Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. According to "that book", the commonwealth of Israel, (not to be confused with the STATE OF ISRAEL), as I understand it, is made up of "fellow citizens", that is to say, all members have equal rights. FEL'LOW, n. [Heb. to tie or connect, to be joined or associated.] ...3. An equal. ~ Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    And mellow greetings to you too, Darkcrusade. Thank you for your thoughtful and detailed response. Do we have any witnesses, other than the so-called “New Testament”, that Jesus [sic] fulfilled those "over 300 prophecies concerning Christ"?
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    Darkcrusade 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    Mellow Greetings Suverans2, Sorry for the delay in responding to this all important topic. You might establish a belief on a truth and work down from that reference point.Say, maybe that ''All men are created equal.'' From my perspective means that-God(The Sovereign) has granted all men personal sovereignty. Which leaves them to offend(sin) against a righteous Creator,(to their detriment)or accept the(Free) provision God has supplied for all. Their is a proof(many),That puts the fingerprints of God upon the Holy Scriptures. 2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: The Fact that God tells the future as a history.(prophecy) You might be familiar with the Septuagint?These, the(old testament) Hebrew scrolls that were translated into Greek,300 hundred years before Christ.(ref-any encyclopedia) The Septuagint contains over 300 prophecies concerning Christ and was translated almost three centuries before his birth. Christ fullfilled every single prophecy! The odds of one historic personage fullfilling every single prophecy written almost 300 years before his birth are unfathomable.(impossible really) http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Talk/talk.origins/2005-11/msg018... All of Christianity would come crashing down in a rubble pile if one(1) prophecy of christ were shown to be unfullfilled.The critics have had 2,000 years to no avail. Nowadays,the best testimony against Christianity,would seem to be so called Christians. There is reason for this. The first century true christians were martyred by the thousands and the truth grew in spite of persecution.Onced the state legalized and endorsed it,it could control it.The modern apostate church has been infiltrated.We have wolves in sheeps clothing sheperding the laity to destruction. The Holy Scripture is the inexhaustible word of God.Libraries of books have been written on one verse. Generation after generation of men have studied it all their lives and have NOT plumbed the depths. There is reason for this. You would expect that ,from a writting that had the audacity to claim the exalted status as the ''word of God!'' I find a lot of intersting truths from the Scriptures that point to God. Exd 20:3 ¶ Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Which is to say-First is God,than is man.The creature is not above the creator.Do not bow down to the idol of a manmade government. or Christ Jesus has said; “And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.21 Luke 22:25..."But ye shall not be so." Jesus said in Matthew 20:25 “But Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you Mar 10:42 But Jesus called them [to him], and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. Mar 10:43 But so shall it not be among you Christ's admonition is wise than, and wiser today. Those who will not be governed by God,will be ruled by tyrants. “And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” (Matthew 23:9) Governments operate under the doctrine of Parens Patriae. Christ cautions us.(This verse also condemns the universal 'catholic chuch' wher they call preist and pope Father.) 1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; You maybe familiar with the contractual nature of governments. The Scripture speaks- When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee: And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat. Proverbs 23:1 “A man void of understanding striketh hands, [and] becometh surety in the presence of his friend.” (Proverbs 17:18) Man has been warned over and over that he should be cautious at the table of rulers whether they be singular monarchs, elected executives or mobs of the majority. Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Romans 13:8-10 (no tax,no tribute,no voting,as that is a trespass and a violence to your neighbors.) Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. and Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. Mat 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (No room for a Government of rulers here.) The next verses are prophetic and point to the rulers(kings) and their creatures(corporations,merchants) and how we should ''come out of the mystery babylon.'') Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. + 2Cr 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you, 2Cr 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. My purpose in this posting is that maybe you have not read the Scriptures in light of these truths that i am attempting to share with you,and hopefully you consider them in a 'new light'. let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written. ~Darkcrusade P.S. Believe nothing that i have wrote,unless you can verify it with the truth. As it is written> Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. 1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
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    Darkcrusade 3 years 22 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    http://www.archive.org/download/cu31924050187842/cu31924050187842.pdf "I look upon that paper as the most fatal plan that could possibly be conceived to enslave a free people." Patrick Henry's Election Speech to Virginia Ratifying Convention, Prince Edward Courthouse, 3rd Monday of March, 1788. http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/editorial/jesse-richards-commentary... The "constitution" itself was a counter revolution to the agreed government set up at the revolution. It thoroughly repudiates the 5 truths articulated in the Declaration of Independence as the causes and premises for the Declaration by declaring itself to be the "supreme" law/sacred text of the land. Thus creating itself as a "sovereign" with divine right to rule because its subjects have elected representatives to plead and petition the sovereign. The eventual corruption was systemic from the initiation as articulated by the "Anti-Federalists." They were right and the Federalists were wrong.
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    Samarami 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    Geoffrey Allan Plauché at http://gaplauche.com/blog/2008/01/29/comments-on-roderick-longs-inside-a... has comments on Roderick Long's "Inside and Outside Spooner's Natural Law Jurisprudence". At the bottom of his comments is a clickable link to Rod's paper. I'm such a computer klutz I have no other way to post a link directly to Long's treatise, as it posts as a word file. Sam
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    Samarami 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    I have made a copy for reading on the road if I get the chance. For a numb-head like me it's not a "short treatise" (12 pages, single-space in Word). In looking at van Dunn's home page I ran across this quote: "We are now a people of the government, for the government, by the government". Theodore Dalrymple That rather goes along with my understanding of the Hebrew book DarkCrusade quoted extensively. Whatever your persuasion regarding that book, it appears that in the story of the creation of the first man and woman that first smiling, waving gangster we've come to think of as "politician" (incorrectly translated "serpent" in some versions of the Book) convinced the woman that The Creator was lying. He had promised those partaking of the tree of life essentially "...government of The Creator, by The Creator, and for the people.." -- and later contracted with their progeny to that effect on two tablets of stone. The politician (perhaps "serpent" is not such a poor translation of that critter after all) argued (and won) that they should safely partake of that "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" (simply stated: human government systems). That would allow them to "...enjoy government of the people, by the people, for the people..." Sam
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    KenK 3 years 22 weeks ago Web link Melinda L. Secor
    This is gonna be problematic too. Several major state and US highways go through that spot.
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago Web link Melinda L. Secor
    "A day earlier, President Barack Obama had hailed the troops' withdrawal as the result of his commitment — promised shortly after taking office in 2009 — to end the war..." You mean one of your politicians lied to you? Do you also remember how soon your politician said he would have your sons and daughters, whom he calls "troops", out of Iraq[1]? I think the STR quote of the day will make an appropriate comment to this story. "Political promises are much like marriage vows. They are made at the beginning of the relationship between candidate and voter, but are quickly forgotten." ~ Dick Gregory ___________________________________________________________________________________________ [1] "On his campaign website, Obama promised he would "remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months." His commitment to bring combat troops home by May 20, 2010, and end the war gave him an edge among Democrats over candidate Hillary Clinton. However, on Feb. 27, Obama declared, "Let me say this as plainly as I can: By Aug. 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end." If Obama adheres to his plan, combat troops will return home months later than originally promised. The New York Times reports, Obama will withdraw only two of the 14 brigades before December. As part of a "new era of American leadership," he also said he would leave behind a residual force of 35,000 to 50,000 troops and remove all U.S. soldiers from Iraq by Dec. 31, 2011 – the same deadline the Bush administration negotiated with the Iraqi government last year in its Status of Forces Agreement." So, which is it Barack Hussein OBAMA, you wanted to "remove all U.S. soldiers from Iraq by Dec. 31, 2011" or you wanted to "leave behind a residual force of 35,000 to 50,000" U.S. soldiers, other peoples sons and daughters? Read more: Obama racks up list of broken promises http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=91286#ixzz1bcOj8vgs
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    Suverans2 3 years 22 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    Natural Rights clause of the New Hampshire Constitution. [Art.] II. [Natural Rights.] All men* have certain natural, essential, and inherent rights - among which are, the enjoying and defending life and liberty; acquiring, possessing, and protecting, property; and, in a word, of seeking and obtaining happiness. *It is important to note that, all "men" [humans] have natural rights, not all "persons" or "citizens". Governments give "citizens" civil rights and/or political rights; Natural Rights are "inherent rights". Then at Article three we read this: [Art.] III. [Society, its Organization and Purposes.] When men enter into a state of society, they surrender up some of their natural rights to that society, in order to ensure the protection of others... Oh, really? It would be interesting to see the list of "natural, essential and inherent rights" that members of their society have to "surrender up", would it not? Let's see now, would it be their right to life, their right to liberty or their right to natural and justly acquired property? As we have seen in a previous comment here, one of their most notable "founding fathers", and author of their manifest notice of secession, the Declaration of Independence, so-called, apparently disagreed with that constitutional article, and in no uncertain terms. "Our legislators are not sufficiently apprized of the rightful limits of their power; that their true office is to declare [not create] and enforce only our natural rights . . . and to take none of them from us. No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another; and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him . . . and the idea is quite unfounded, that on entering into society we give up any natural right." ~ Thomas Jefferson (c.1816)
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    rita 3 years 23 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    Which is exactly what it was meant to do.
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    Suverans2 3 years 23 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    "...city-owned trees..."????????? Hmmmm, I thought if they were on the "public right-of-way", i.e. the "common right-of-way", that they are common property, i.e. everyone owns them. Damaging the bark. [laughing] Then I suppose woodpeckers and squirrels will have to be notified as well.
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    Suverans2 3 years 23 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    "...we need to promote the idea of natural law, that an act is lawful or criminal on its own merits, and not because of the decree of some group of rulers. The idea of natural law is more important than the specifics of its content, because once this idea is accepted, the state and its statutes are no longer relevant when discussing the lawfulness of an act." ~ Rule-of-law Anarchism: A Strategy for Destroying the State's Legitimacy by Kevin S. Van Horn
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    Suverans2 3 years 23 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    Natural law. This is the rules of conduct necessary for people to live and work in peace, based on human nature. A central feature of customary or natural law is that law is not made, it is not legislated, it is not decreed; it is discovered. The development of customary law is an ongoing effort to discover what the natural law is. It always focuses on resolving the specific issues of the specific parties to a specific case, and thus is far less vulnerable to lobbying and politicking than the process of legislation. The main elements of natural law as commonly understood are these: lawful behavior means to avoid physical damage to another's person or property; to honor one's contracts; and to compensate those whom one has harmed by infringing on their person or property. In other words, Ayn Rand didn't invent the Non-Aggression Principle; it is of ancient origin. The natural law has no notion of victimless crime; there is no case without a plaintiff to claim injury. Thus customary law tends to focus on compensation for injuries suffered, rather than on punishment. The purpose of law is to see that justice is done — that injured parties are made whole, to the extent possible — rather than to exact vengeance against evil-doers. ~ Excerpted from Rule-of-law Anarchism: A Strategy for Destroying the State's Legitimacy by Kevin S. Van Horn
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    Suverans2 3 years 23 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Don Stacy
    Word for the day: Isonomy
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    Samarami 3 years 23 weeks ago
    Anti-Smoking Fascists
    Web link Michael Dunn
    The issue is not whether or not smoking tobacco causes lung cancer (I think excessive smoking probably contributes to the risk of lung cancer. I could be wrong about that). The issue is whether or not one accepts agents of state as serving a socially useful purpose (I don't). "No government anywhere, at any time, has ever brought net benefit to any society, and there is no desirable function that any government performs that could not be performed better, or less expensively, by free people operating on a voluntary basis for profit or for charity". ~Jim Davies http://www.takelifeback.com/tdaw/
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    Samarami 3 years 23 weeks ago
    My Son: Klan Reformer
    Page Stefan Molyneux
    That was a nice tribute to John Pugsley. From "The Alpha Strategy", Ch 3: The Early Embezzlers Tribal chiefs and kings discovered early in history that there were great advantages to controlling the issuance of money. They started by minting the money metals into coins, usually stamped with their own likenesses.* Ostensibly, this was the king's guarantee that there was a certain amount of gold or silver in the coin. In practice, the politicians soon found a way to turn a profit from the business. First, they profited from "seniorage," a price charged for minting the raw metals into coin form. This was a very small percentage, though, usually not much more than the actual costs involved in the minting operation. The real profits came from debasement or clipping. After years of use, individuals would begin to trust these government coins, accepting them as being of a certain weight and fineness without weighing them. Anytime the king could not raise enough taxes to finance his wars or his preferred standard of living, he would tamper with the coinage. As the coins came through the royal treasury, he would secretly file a bit of the metal off each coin and then pass the coins off again at full value, while taking the filings and minting a few new coins. The crafty monarch might also issue new coins in which the gold or silver was alloyed with cheaper metals. Some resorted to "clad" or "sandwich" coins, in which they plated cheaper metals with gold or silver to simulate the real thing. Or again, a kind might simply issue new coins of smaller size, while calling them by the same name as the older, larger coins. In all cases the supply of gold or silver in circulation remained the same but the supply of coins increased. The king, being the first user of the new coins, gained by the amount of real goods those new coins bought. The public, however, now had fewer goods but more coins. The result was an increase in the supply of coins that eventually led to a lower value for each coin. In other words, rising prices. The king was a thief. John had the capability to put the whole story of monetary skulduggery that has resulted in the economic "crises" from time immemorial until right here, right now. * Sam's Note: This was going on as early as 30AD as evidenced by a famous story among religious types in a Hebrew Book that has maintained all-time best seller status in religious "nations" ["render unto Caesar", Hebrew "Bible", Book of Luke, Ch 20, vs 22-25], and undoubtedly had its beginning many centuries prior to that. Sam
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    DanClore 3 years 23 weeks ago
    Anti-Smoking Fascists
    Web link Michael Dunn
    This actually tries to tell us that smoking tobacco not only doesn't cause lung cancer, it protects against it.
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    livefreeretiree (not verified) 3 years 23 weeks ago
    My Son: Klan Reformer
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    John Pugsley was a dear friend and mentor to me until he died about 6 months ago. Knowing him changed my life. "The Alpha Strategy" was one of the first things I ever read that started turning me onto the paradigm of liberty. He was a good teacher and a great man, I wrote this tribute to him the morning that he died: http://www.suscivinst.com/2011/07/22/parting-words-for-a-recently-deceas...
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    Samarami 3 years 23 weeks ago
    My Son: Klan Reformer
    Page Stefan Molyneux
    I had watched and listened to Molyneux's video of this article some time ago, but was not aware of it in essay. Thanks to Stefan for this timely work. I have children and grandchildren beating the bush for Ron Paul, and this helps me to explain to them why I cannot join in their enthusiasm for his "campaign". I love them and do "grandpa duty" regularly while Mom, Dad and older grandkids (they have 9 children) are on the campaign trail for Dr Paul. And thanks, Vahram, for posting the link to John Pugsley's "Open Letter to Harry Browne". Pugsley also wrote The Alpha Strategy (pdf), available online for free -- a worthwhile read. I was a kid not long home from Korea when I was exposed to Harry Brown's "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World", written around 1971. I had traveled the roads and cow paths of Texas in ardent support of Barry Goldwater for "potus" in the summer of 1964 on summer break from teaching. Totally disillusioned with politics after his sound defeat to Lyndon Johnson, I never again registered or voted -- 48 years now (I'm 75). That was the last year for the poll tax in Texas. That experience also introduced me to the grave compromise in basic principles that must be met if one wants to fool with the evils of politics. As Stefan outlined, you have to accept a few lynchings to succeed in politics for "high office" (or any government "office"). So I try not to come down too hard on my sons and their families in their promotion of Dr Paul for "Grand Wizard" (I haven't used that epithet with family, but may soon give it a try -- gently). Analogies such as Molyneux's help to plant seeds. Sam .
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    livefreeretiree (not verified) 3 years 23 weeks ago
    My Son: Klan Reformer
    Page Stefan Molyneux
    This is probably the clearest and most easily understandable argument against Ron Paul and minarchism I have ever read, perhaps besides John Puglsey's Open Letter to Harry Browne (http://www.tortoisepressinc.com/Pugsley%20_Harry%20Browne%20letter_.pdf). Well done, Stef.
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    Samarami 3 years 23 weeks ago Page Westernerd
    Robert: "...the heart and soul of order is anarchy and freedom. Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order..." Dead on, Robert! Good essay! Thanks! All too often I've seen on some of these sites well-meaning libertarians who lament "...we must work to bring about a libertarian society..." or similarly worded theses. But that very wording implies someone (or someones -- busybodies, perhaps) must "manage and control" society until "it" becomes free (or libertarian, or anarchic). That's not the way freedom works. If I practice freedom I'm free. I might inspire freedom by my example for you, but your freedom is your responsibility, not mine. My only responsibility is refraining from trying to manage your freedom. That can take skill and self-discipline -- especially for you young parents. I know -- I had 7, long grown up and producers of grandchildren and great grandchildren. Small children need loving, but sometimes firm, direction from Mom & Dad. Remember Hanoi. Resist the temptation to install traffic signals in life. Be free. Thanks again for the essay! Sam
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    Westernerd 3 years 23 weeks ago Page Robert Kaercher
    Great article, Robert, I enjoy hearing on the ground reports from people that are actually at a protest. I, too, have experienced similar teeth-gnashing at anti-war protests here in San Francisco, though like Chicago, there always seems to be plenty of Ron Paul supporters and End the Fed signs.
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    Suverans2 3 years 23 weeks ago Page Robert Kaercher
    "One Leftist spoke of how he was one of nearly two dozen anti-war activists harassed by the FBI last year. He literally woke up early one morning to the ominous sounds of somebody pounding on his door. He opened it up and some 20 or so Federal agents marched in and rifled through all of his and his wife’s personal papers and effects, eventually carting off some 30 boxes of the couple’s private belongings." Hopefully someone told this "Leftist" that should their desire for collectivism come true, history tells us, in no uncertain terms, that (s)he could expect more of this, not less. And someone should have shown that "Lefty professor from the University of Illinois at Chicago" the "bloody history" of socialist/communist governments against their own citizens (members).
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    Jack Oldson 3 years 23 weeks ago Page Robert Kaercher
    Enjoy seeing people wake up... especially when they wake up all the way!
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    Mark Davis 3 years 23 weeks ago Page Mark Davis
    The first question was "Who do you like in the GOP race?" and Hank answered emphatically "Nobody." He later said Herman Cain makes more sense than the others "Right now." and was later prompted to comment about his previous support of Palin to which he said "Did I." So he clearly stated that he didn't support any of the "GOP field" and later gave non-committal off hand comments after prompts on two persons of which one is running. This will help his career more than hurt it. Country music fans like their singers to have some balls, at least those of the male variety. Hating Obama is a good start on the road to hating the state. When more people figure out that our problems are systemic and not due to personnel issues, support for the state will fade quickly. Anarchy is a Big Tent and Obama haters are welcome to come learn about the alternatives outside the mainstream organs. I'm just trying to help them.
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    donjuancho (not verified) 3 years 23 weeks ago
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    Page Leonidas
    I doubt bad cops (sorry for the redundancy) read this forum.
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    Gwardion 3 years 23 weeks ago Page Mark Davis
    I find it interesting that so many people, including Democrats, automatically assume that Obama would be the Hitler. Why is it that even his supporters automatically assume he has to be the Hitler in the analogy? I find it is very revealing that anyone that hears that analogy automatically assumes the Obama-Hitler connection. Why couldn't Obama be the Netanyahu?
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    rita 3 years 23 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    Oh, please! The "drug threat"? If the Russians think that eradicating the crops of desperately poor third-world farmers would end the "drug threat," why didn't they do it? Obama is, indeed, the leader of the world's most dangerous criminal organization. More dangerous than any drug; more violent than any drug cartel. They CREATED the "drug threat;" the drug threat makes them strong. It defines them; it justifies their existence.
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    mikehauncho 3 years 23 weeks ago Page Mark Davis
    I don't know if Hank is that black and white but the hitler remark was blown way out of proportion compared to the current rhetoric used today and he certainly did not deserve to get canned for it.
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    Mitrik_Spanner 3 years 23 weeks ago Page Mark Davis
    Wait a minute! Hank did say he likes Sara Palin. And that Herman Cain is the candidate he likes best in the current contest. He shot his career in the foot with the Hitler remark and proved he's a Obama hater and not much more. A tempest in a teapot.
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    Leonidas 3 years 23 weeks ago
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    Page Leonidas
    I know, but hope springs eternal. If they have any sense of self preservation, they will act to rein themselves in.
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    KenK 3 years 23 weeks ago
    The Spinnerians
    Page Leonidas
    Leonidas your piece was great until this part: "Cops, end the childishness. Fix yourselves. Do it now. If we have to do it for you, you are going to wish we hadn’t." Reformist claptrap. State employed security agents are gonna be goons. Period. That is just the nature of that kind of beast. That's reality.
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    Suverans2 3 years 23 weeks ago Web link Melinda L. Secor
    In reply to: 12-Year Olds in CA Can Be Vaccinated Without Knowledge or Consent of Parents, I asked the the question that no one likes the answer to, "And, who is subject to this law?" Here, in this lead-in, we find the answer. "Lawmakers in Louisiana have effectively banned its citizens from freely using..." Which is why I do not consent to be a "citizen", i.e. a member of any of their body politics.