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    A Liberal in La... 3 years 5 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    Please give a summary of the problems with Rothbard's thinking.
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    A Liberal in La... 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Don Stacy
    Wow. The section, "The Goldilocks of Risk", was eyepopping. Too bad the gladhanders and grandstanders, i.e. politicians and their hangers-on, are visionary planners of society with little interest in slowing down long enough to understand the research. Also illuminating was the influence of BIS and the Basel Accords on American banks. A few observations about Maymin's essay: (1) Maymin wrote that the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision publishes "suggested bank guidelines", but later he added that under the Basel Accord's guidelines, "the bank that wishes to own $100 million of IBM stock may not unilaterally decide how much or how little risk capital to allocate for that ownership; it must conform to the regulatory requirements." So are they guidelines that obligate no one or are they requirements to which bankers must conform? Perhaps the trick to understanding the guildlines of the BIS and BCBS is that that they are analogous to recommendations published by the NCCUSL. If so, the BIS and BCBS would rely upon its members' several legislatures, e.g. Congress, to implement proposals, just as the NCCUSL doesn't publish laws but recommendations that may be codified by the legislatures of the provinces that Americans call states. (2) At the end Maymin claims that "[w]e have over 150,000 pages of federal regulations for various industries". I can't help wondering how he came up with that number. That would be 300 volumes with 500 pages per volume. So, is he counting both Statutes at Large and the United States Code? If so, then he must be double counting regulations. Another complication when trying to cite a neat and tidy number for the quantity of regulations is the set of many rules issued by various federal agencies. To paint a more precise picture, Maymin should cite one compilation or the other or both separately. Of course, if leftist bloggers and journalists investigate his claim and find it misleading, then Maymin will have discredited his own cause in proportion to the error, and it would hardly matter if the total number of pages turned out to be more than 150k. The goo-goos would probably trivialize that fact or neglect it altogether. In the meantime, some libertarian or conservative parrot will repeat the number 150k without doing the least bit of research to check it out. The claim could take on a life of its own, like some feminists' perennial shrill cry that women are paid just n% of what men earn, where n is always a good deal less than 100. (3) Maymin asked rhetorically, "[h]ow do banks work today?". His answer: "Basically, they hold leveraged portfolios of assets and decide how much risk capital to allocate to be able to keep holding those positions during times of distress." (Emphasis added.) If that's "basically" what he's teaching his students about banking, his students ought to plug their ears during class, for Maymin has a very superficial understanding. Keep in mind that "risk capital" is not a synonym for reserves. I suspect that his students' interests would be better served by not taking his class(es) at all, thereby saving several thousand dollars of tuition. Instead, they ought to burrow their way through Rothbard's A History of Money and Banking in the United States, which they can download for free. They could supplement their study with Modern Money Mechanics, first published by the FRB of Chicago in the 1960s and revised numerous times since then. It explains, among other things, the basics of deposit expansion and contraction under the system of fractional reserve banking established by Congress. This work, too, they can get for free. And of course, Mayim would have more time for statistics-driven research, which he seems to be good at. (4) If there were a free market in banking, then there'd be no banking cartels set up by government, no central banking, no sheltering of bankers from the vice of fractional reserve warehouse banking, and so on. Undoubtedly the bankers won't like this definition. Neither would the leftists. (5) Maymin wrote that "...no algorithm for calculating the required risk capital for given portfolios results in lower systemic risk"? C'mon, now, that doesn't even come close to passing the smell test. A cluster of warehouse banks each operating at or near 100% reserves would surely have low systemic risk. Of course, their dependency upon each other would be low, each bank would have few investments, and the regulators would have abandoned their old preoccupation, namely, meddling in banking in order to stimulate loans and investments by bankers. (6) The usual suspects will clamor for Mayim's "hypothetical regulatory agency", even though all experience shows that it's going to be a gigantic failure. The superagency toward which the world is heading will provide job opportunities for many law school grads and econ professors. And can you imagine the anxiety attacks of partners in big law firms if all those regulations were swept off the books without delay? What would they tell associates who've been racking up 2,000 to 3,000 billable hours per year in order to become partner and to enjoy the perks of crime that's organized under the color of law and protected by $45k/yr cops with degrees in criminal justice? Yes, regulation is like central planning; it amounts to politicians and bureaucrats exercising dominion over matter, physical stuff, that is nominally the property of others, i.e. business owners. Of course, even b-school books inform their readers that one of the purposes of regulation is to thwart competition. So business owners may not have the justification for complaint that at first appears to be the case. Anyhowm, why don't we claim that regulation is a little like Fascism, supposedly the merger of the corporation and the state? Regulation, you see, is the merger of corporate management with the state.
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    Robert Wallace 3 years 5 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    "We are a happy family" Fallacy of Composition. One out of a million.
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    Robert Wallace 3 years 5 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    I outgrew Rothbard's foolishness many years ago.
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    Robert Wallace 3 years 5 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    "Trying not to be rude, but when reading your column I have to assume that this whole libertarian thing is very new to you." If you don't know who I am, you haven't been one for very long.
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    Did anyone bother to go read HB569? They aren't "getting rid" of marriage, fercrisesake, they are simply renaming it, "domestic union", (A domestic union contracted under this chapter shall be the legal equivalent to marriage....), to side-step "the argument about gay marriage", nothing more. Well, whoopdeefrikindo! That means that the STATE will still be the 3rd and controlling party (god) in your "domestic union".
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    Jad Davis 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    Let's see if I'm clear on your position. You're requesting that we not "fret" for a man who's facing 4-15 years in prison for recording a policeman because you don't like his political positions? I'm curious, if this is the case, do you support the indefinite detention of "enemy combatants"? Surely you don't agree with the political positions of the Guantanamo bay detainees.
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    "Many people seem to think that anarchists are proponents of violence, chaos, and destruction, that they are against all forms of order and organization, or that they are crazed nihilists who just want to blow everything up." Quick definitions from WordNet (nihilist) ▸ noun: someone who rejects all theories of morality or religious belief ▸ noun: an advocate of anarchism anarchist NOUN (1) 1. an advocate of anarchism; [syn:nihilist, syndicalist] ~ Wordnet 3.0 nihilist Specifically An adherent of nihilism; a member of a Russian secret society which aims at the overthrow of the existing order of things, social, political, and religious; a Russian anarchist or revolutionary reformer. See nihilism, 4. ~ Wordnik Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0: 71 Moby Thesaurus words for "nihilist": ...anarchist... Related Words for : nihilist anarchist, syndicalist ~ Dictionary.com Gee, I wonder why people would associate anarchists with nihilists? Hey, I know, maybe it's because so many dictionaries do! Are You An Anarchist? Definition of ANARCHIST ...2 : a person who believes in, advocates, or promotes anarchism or anarchy; especially : one who uses violent means to overthrow the established order ~ Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary, 11th Edition Yes, I know that there are some definitions that are more positive than that, and I know that it is probably a complete waste of my time telling some of you this, AGAIN, because you've already made up your mind, and you will choose to ignore this post. That's certainly your prerogative. This is directed at the individual who has not yet labeled himself, he needs to know that this is typically what he will be up against if he uses the word "anarchist " to describe himself.
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    D. Saul Weiner 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Don Stacy
    This is a very good article, a technical topic explained in layman's terms. It is unfortunate, though not surprising, that this type of analysis was not considered when Congress deliberated for the latest round of so-called financial regulation legislation. This analysis reinforces for me that regulation is really a form of central planning, so we should not be surprised when it fails to produce the stated objectives, or in fact works counter to them.
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    Bootstrapper 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    "Money flows toward power like water flows downhill." I think Kevin has it backwards. Political power gravitates to to those who have wealth. "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws." - Mayer Amschel Rothschild. The role money plays in civilised society is so fundamental that if you change the way it works, society and the economy will change to accommodate it. [url]http://p2pfoundation.net/Brakteaten_Money[/url]
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    A Liberal in La... 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    Ah, yes, Mr. Grigg had the rioting children dead to rights pretty fast. It so happened that another cryptocommie movement surfaced just recently and found mention at http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/03/group-calls-for-siege-of-fe... Note the grocery list of desires that are sure to appeal to a wide variety of half-educated fools: http://ampedstatus.org/network/about/
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    Darkcrusade 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    HAHAHAHAHA! Good Catch. Property is theft!??!? Kissing Proudhon a$$. I tracked down the multi colored pentagram and had a chuckle. Thank you for that. TPTB have never seen a subversive movement they did not like. http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2011/02/when-tax-feeders-revolt.html
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    A Liberal in La... 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    Are You A Closeted Commie? Are You A Pseudanarchist? The Answers May Not Suprise [sic] You! Let's see now. At NYMAA there's little, or no, mention of the right to private property. Nevertheless, we have the following: "Are you a member of a club or sports team or any other voluntary organization where decisions are not imposed by one leader but made on the basis of general consent?" It's not hard to figure out what that means. NYMAA is pandering to thin-skinned babies who can't tolerate being told what to do, i.e. being given instructions, after having having voluntarily affiliated their selves with a sports team, a club, a business, a sailing crew, etc. Now, anyone who's ever been part of an unsuccessful sports team, business, etc. knows the price of wishwashy leadership. And, of course, communism is nothing if not a home for thin-skinned babies who don't like being told what to do. Oh, the irony. Now, down the lefthand side of NYMAA's site there are a number of carefully chosen links. Following one got me very quickly to... http://libcom.org/. They helpfully provide you with a guide to their ideology. See the star, half black and half red. The black side is for the tactic of pretending to be anarchists and working to sweep aside current governments, mainly through mobocracy. The rioting children in Wisconsin are a good example of mobocracy. The red side of the star is for communism, which is the antithesis of anarchism. Another link at NYMAA takes the clicker to the New York City Branch of the Industrial Workers of the World, http://wobblycity.wordpress.com/. Yep, commies once again. In fact, the IWW has it's headquarters within walking distance of Lakeview. http://www.iww.org/en/headquarters The prosecution rests.
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    A Liberal in La... 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Jad Davis
    Fret not for this artist. He's a leftwing turd, as you can see at http://www.c-drew.com/blog/2011/02/28/1398/. In fact, for years he's been trying to foment this confrontation with his fellow statists. http://www.copblock.org/1927/is-illinois-taking-an-artist-to-trial-to-si...
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago
    Waivers For Everyone
    Web link Melinda L. Secor
    "Waivers? We ain't got no waivers. We don't need no waivers. I don't have to show you any stinking waivers!" ;)
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Melinda L. Secor
    G'day ProtoGoth, "..a proven source of energy...", young goth? You may want to research that statement. Here are a couple of examples; and as you can see from the first one, it doesn't have to be a "common" occurrence to effect an awful lot of people. Explosion at Chernobyl On April 26, 1986, a nuclear reactor exploded and caught fire at Chernobyl in Ukraine, spewing 200 times more radiation into the air than the 1945 Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings combined. To date, Chernobyl is the worst accident in the history of nuclear power. More than 600,000 workers called "liquidators"--without proper equipment or training--extinguished the fire and constructed a cement tomb around the reactor. In all, an estimated 17.5 million people suffered serious radiation exposure, 2.5 million of them children. The Ukraine Ministry of Health estimates that 125,000 people have died in Ukraine alone as a result of radiation effects; almost all liquidators are seriously ill or dead. Thyroid (throat) cancer alone is 79 times more prevalent since the accident. A few million people--many too poor to move--still live in the contaminated zone and experience daily exposure to low-dose radiation, eating radioactive meat and crops, and drinking contaminated water and milk. Many people suffer from what has been called "Chernobyl AIDS"--they're chronically sick because their immune, or disease-fighting, systems can't ward off disease. (Source: http://tinyurl.com/68mqxht) _________________________________________________________________________________________ The Downside * It’s expensive low carbon power ($0.9-$0.10/kWh delivered) compared to $0.025-$0.030 for end-use efficiency improvements; $0.06-$0.07 for wind; and $0.026-$0.04 for recovered heat co-generation) * Long gestation/construction period and huge capital costs increase risk of market obsolescence and “stranded costs” (i.e., costs that cannot reasonably be recovered by continuing to operate the plant for its planned life) * Subject to infrequent, but prolonged and costly planned and unplanned shutdowns (a recent study by the Union of Concerned Scientists documents 12 year-plus reactor outages since 1995, 11 of them “safety-related) * Large “lumpy” increments of nuclear capacity require expensive overall power system excess capacity to ensure grid reliability * Any nuclear power investment may at any moment become hostage to the conduct of the worst performer—or even the average performer on a bad day—in the event of a reactor accident or near-accident anywhere on the globe * No licensed path (yet) to opening first longterm geologic repository for safely isolating spent fuel, and nuclear “renaissance” will require either additional expensive and hard-to-establish geologic repositories, or even more expensive and hazardous spent-fuel reprocessing * Nuclear security concerns and risks are heightened in an age of transnational terrorism * Acute proliferation concerns arise if advanced fuel cycles are used, or if uranium enrichment capability spreads to additional countries that are not already nuclear weapon states * All stages of the nuclear fuel cycle involve potentially harmful, or in some cases disastrous environmental impacts (e.g., Chernobyl), requiring continuous and vigorous regulation, with significant financial penalties exacted for poor environmental and safety performance to ensure compliance * Huge heat dissipation requirements demand either large evaporative cooling withdrawals and/or thermal discharges into already overburdened lakes and rivers, or massive and expensive fan-driven air-cooling towers * Climate change in the direction of hotter, drier summers spells trouble for reactors that rely primarily on cheaper once-through or evaporative water cooling * Offer little prospect of increasing “energy independence,” as the bulk of world uranium resources are located outside the United States (Source: http://tinyurl.com/2urk5h)
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Melinda L. Secor
    G'day rita, After talking with one of the engineers who worked at Rancho Seco I would have to agree with you. "Only its position near the top of the corporate welfare rolls enables the nuclear industry to hang on." ~ Pittsburgh Post-Gazette "Government subsidies to the nuclear power industry over the past fifty years have been so large in proportion to the value of the energy produced that in some cases it would have cost taxpayers less to simply buy kilowatts on the open market and give them away, according to a February 2011 report by the Union of Concerned Scientists." ~ Nuclear Power Subsidies: The Gift that Keeps on Taking
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    ProtoGoth (not verified) 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Melinda L. Secor
    Clearly we must abandon a proven source of energy since we can't be sure whether or not nuclear reactors can withstand a FREAKIN' 8.9 earthquake! Those are just so common that it's not worth investing in nuclear any further.
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    rita 3 years 5 weeks ago
    Waivers For Everyone
    Web link Melinda L. Secor
    If and when the government requires me to buy into my employers' $1000 deductible "health plan," I will write my own waiver by quitting my job.
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    rita 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Melinda L. Secor
    Yet another reason, as if we needed any more reasons, to oppose the use of nuclear energy.
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago
    Waivers For Everyone
    Web link Melinda L. Secor
    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” ~ Margaret Thatcher
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    A Liberal in La... 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Melinda L. Secor
    If Winslow T. Wheeler "were presiding over this mess", he just might be an acquintance, friend, or ally of Dov S. Zakheim, an ugly, oily Jew who appeared on the cover of CFO magazine during the first term of Bush I. At the time Dov was comptroller at the DoD, and then, too, the DoD was experiencing accounting irregularities, just as any intelligent person should be able to predict would be the case under military communism. Sure enough, Dov's fingerprints are all over Reagan's presidency; then, too, he was involved with the DoD. It just so happened that between stints at the DoD, Dov helped to write PNAC's screed for imperialism and warmongering, Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century. It's a fascinating outline of how the USA might be turned into something like the republic of Star Wars, though not necessarily with light sabres or with TIE fighters that have enourmous blind spots that no test pilot would tolerate. (Perhaps the absurd designs of those fighters are evidence of the underappreciated humor of George Lucas. In a Star Wars video game that came out in the 1990s, the game programmers named a company that made TIE Fighters, no doubt for profit in that world, too.) Anyhow, this ought to prompt a few questions. "Who does Dov work for now? How does that business obtain its revenues?" I suspect that the answer to the first is Booz Allen Hamilton. As you can see, Booz Allen Hamilton is grease on the skids of crony capitalism. Sure enough, BAH knows how to pander to rabble and do-goodniks with the usual nostrums and platitudes about service to the community: "Bettering our world Beyond management and technology consulting, Booz Allen takes its role as good corporate citizen very seriously. Bettering our world is part of the fabric of the firm—whether through volunteerism, pro bono engagements, fundraising, corporate philanthropy, or activating the business community through service to the community—globally and locally." Now, who can doubt that the congenial management and owners of BAH would employ hitmen to stop anyone and everyone who wants to wreck their lucrative business?
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    Hello Liberal in Lakeview, Just curious, why would you link to something from a troll calling him or her self "BaphometRex666", which in turn links to the Sinagogue of Satan website?
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    "New York Man Faces Five Years in Jail for ‘Linking’ to Online Videos" This title and certain things withing the article are very misleading. The title should have read, "New York Man Faces Five Years in Jail for ‘Linking’ to Online Bootlegged Videos" The article begins with this warning, "You may want to think twice the next time you share a link to your favorite video." To state this a little more truthfully, "You may want to think twice the next time you share a link to your favorite bootlegged video." We read further on in this article, "The advocacy group Demand Progress has claimed that McCarthy never reproduced copyrighted material, and that his website simply linked to other sites." What Demand Progress seems to have 'inadvertently' left unsaid was the fact that Brian McCarthy was evidently "simply linking" to sites that were illegally reproducing (and/or distributing) copyrighted material.
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    A Liberal in La... 3 years 5 weeks ago
    Waivers For Everyone
    Web link Melinda L. Secor
    Reaganism. So predictable. How many years will it take the author, John Hayward, to understand that he has impeached military communism? "like all socialist schemes, it relies entirely on the compulsive force of law" "Every central planning scheme drives up costs and limits services." "...the cost of forcing compliance with a government mandate [e.g. military communism] will always cause a product or service to end up with a higher price than it would have commanded in a competitive free market" Central planning, compulsion, limiting services, and a higher price, indeed. And these are exactly what flagwaving shills for military communism want when they think about investing in businesses that sell stuff that nobody would buy voluntarily with their own money. Examples of military communism for profit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1A2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KC-X Now, Human Events is a Reaganist outfit. Hayward may need a little help to think it through even though he's got his free market talking points memorized very well.
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Michael Kleen
    Morpheus: You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.... Remember, all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more....[1] The Blue Pill: To Vote Is To Choose Your Masters The Red Pill: If one possesses the political right to vote, it means that he has already chosen his master. It's not whether a man votes, or not, it's whether he is "entitled" to vote, i.e. has been given the political "right" to vote, or not, that determines who, or what, his master is. Only those individuals who have voluntarily "submitted themselves to the dominion of [the] government" (citizens/subjects[2]) have a "just claim" to that "entitlement". A man is none the less a slave because he is allowed [entitled] to choose a new master once in a term of years. ~ Lysander Spooner ____________________________________________________________ [1] The terms redpill and its opposite, bluepill, are pop culture terms that have become a common symbol for the choice between the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue) and embracing the sometimes[sic] painful truth of reality (red). ~ Wikipedia [2] Subject. ...Men in free governments are subjects as well as citizens; as citizens they enjoy [political/civil] rights and franchises; as subjects they are bound to obey the laws. Swiss Nat. Ins. Co. v. Miller, 267 U.S. 42, 45 S.Ct. 213, 214, 69 L.Ed. 504 (Source: Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition (c.1991), page 1425 [Bracketed information & emphasis added] See that word "franchises" in the definition directly above? Disenfranchisement. ...In a more popular sense, the taking away of the elective franchise (that is, the right of voting in public elections) from any citizen or class of citizens. ~ Ibid., page 468
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    B.R. Merrick 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    If anyone's interested, I've written an article for another website about these prison rape pieces that I think says something important: http://www.avoiceformen.com/2011/03/11/the-rape-of-mankind/ I appreciate the assistant editors publishing these other articles at STR, as they were a direct inspiration for what I wrote.
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    A Liberal in La... 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    www.disinfo.com: An ironic URL, given the misleading title of the article. Leftists. So predictable. Also, at the bottom of page: "Copyright 2011 The Disinformation Company Ltd." What a sense of humor they have! Thanks for posting the corrective to the misleading headline, which ought not to have been repeated at STR.
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    A Liberal in La... 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    But Rita, "Homeland Security is an emerging field that includes many applications including emergency preparedness and response for natural disasters and terrorism, border patrol, security management, intelligence and many other exciting careers." (Emphasis added.) "Get Trained & Start Working in Just a Few Months!" "DON'T WAIT...CALL NOW!" http://www.chooseicdccollege.com/System/LandingPages/Online_HLS_AllOnlin... "ICDC College is accredited by the ACCSC."
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    rita 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    And here in the late, great, "Land of the Free," buildings like this crumble, empty, while human beings live under bridges.
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    rita 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    And here we thought the DHS was merely concerned with protecting us from Spanish-speaking day laborers and purveyors of drug paraphernalia . . .
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    rita 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    I'd been wondering if Bradley Manning had any family, and had concluded that he must be an orphan. If that were me sitting in that cell, guilty or innocent, my parents would have long ago been sitting on the White House steps; if it were one of my children, my parents and I would all be there.
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    "Utah Approves Gold & Silver Coins As Currency" Really? "House Bill 317 was introduced by state Rep. Brad Galvez (R) last week, and passed the House by a vote of 47-26. It will now head to the state Senate for a vote." Not YET, it hasn't, apparently. "The Utah House of Representatives has approved a bill[sic] that allowing gold and silver coins to be used as currency, though unlike similar bills in other states, it doesn’t force anyone to accept gold or silver as legal tender." Does anyone here know if any of the several STATES have approved a bill that "forces" their members to accept gold or silver as legal tender?
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago
    Civility and Democracy
    Web link Michael Kleen
    G'day Paul, Do you truly believe, as you seem to indicate, that it is only the fear of being shot, the fear of reprisal, that makes men deal with each other civilly, i.e. "in a polite way, especially without being friendly"? Or is it because we are social beings[1] by nature? And, do we, (well, most of us anyway), not discover, at an early age, hopefully, that when we are antisocial, i.e. treat each other with incivility, that we soon have few, or no, good companions? _______________________________________________________________________________ [1] SO'CIAL, a. [L. socialis, from socius, companion.] ...4. Disposed to unite in society. Man is a social being. ~ Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language
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    Paul 3 years 5 weeks ago
    Civility and Democracy
    Web link Michael Kleen
    I don't buy it. I don't think civility was ever very popular for the mass of humanity. The only times and places it was, was within the armed class ("an armed society is a polite society") because acting otherwise would be a good way to end up dead the next morning via a duel. And, it was preserved in the English upper classes as a way to separate themselves from the hoi polloi. And civility of course has nothing whatever to do with the Tucson shootings.
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    Evan 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Michael Kleen
    What a tool.
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    Melinda L. Secor 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    I surely hope so....it would do my heart good to see Americans shake their apathy and stand up for something. It irks me that that most just line up like sheep for each new bit of degradation inflicted by the state....and each one done with money lifted from their own pockets.
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    Michael Kleen 3 years 5 weeks ago Page Michael Kleen
    These are all some very good observations, and I agree that pragmatism can be taken too far. That's why it should be practiced, like most other things, in moderation.
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Michael Kleen
    Well said.
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    Semmes 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Michael Kleen
    I do not trust any human being to issue a monetary unit. It will always become corrupt over time. That is why gold and silver have always been money. It has to be dug out of the ground, refined and minted. It can be tested for weight and purity by even the simplest of people. It can’t be printed ad infinitum. If men were angles we wouldn’t need gold and silver.Gold and Silver are not a perfect solution. AS usual Government (evil men) grant special licenses and privileges to other evil men to manipulate, monopolize and impede the market flow of money. This type of activity will need to be viewed by all men as akin to murder and punished at the end of a rope or barrel of a gun. Gold and Silver are not perfect but vastly superior to Utopian pipe dream of fiat currency.
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Michael Kleen
    “Assange was arrested in Britain on December 7th on an international warrant issued by a Swedish prosecutor who wanted to question him over four separate allegations of sexual assault made by the two women relating to incidents in August 2010.” This reminds me of an old joke. Two nuns on the way to church decided to take a shortcut through the nearby woods. Half way there a man jumped out of the bushes and raped them both. When they reached the church door, sometime later, one nun turns to the other and asks, “How are we going to explain being raped TWICE? The other nun asks, “What do you mean TWICE?” The first nun smiles slyly, and says, “Well, we're going back that way, aren't we?”
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Michael Kleen
    "A man is none the less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years. Neither are a people any the less slaves because permitted periodically to choose new masters." ~ No Treason – The Constitution of No Authority (1867-1870) by Lysander Spooner
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    KenK 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    And we despise you right back Vox.
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    Paul 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    See my article, Cops. What good are they?
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    Paul 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    This will mean war, if they keep pushing it.
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    Paul 3 years 5 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    Note the Eastern need to "save face". Same thing, really. And FDR got us into war by cutting off the oil supplies of the Japanese, which was a slap in the face, shaming them. At least, one could make that argument...
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    Suverans2 3 years 5 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    Thank you very much for the positive feedback, Sharon Secor. Agreed, "shameful, sad, but true."
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    Paul 3 years 5 weeks ago Page Michael Kleen
    I can see both sides of this argument. A fine example is what is going on with concealed carry of firearms. Originally only Vermont allowed concealed carry (CC) with no need for permits. At that time I believe only Washington state allowed CC with permits. But then the dam broke for some reason after Florida adopted CC with permits. By now we have about 40 states with "shall issue" CC laws. The interesting thing is that permitless CC is now starting to spread. At this point Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming have this type of law, and several other states are considering it. See the animated graphic here: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Shall_issue#Shall-Issue Now, the ideological position is clearly for permitless CC, and CC requiring a permit is an imposition. Yet I believe the current spread of permitless CC would not be occurring without the intermediate stage first. I think the first stage got people used to the idea of a significant percentage of people walking around armed. After that took place and mayhem did not occur, it allowed further questioning, such as, "Should I really need permission from a bureaucrat to protect my family?" And people are getting it; they are realizing the answer is no. So these events support the pragmatic position (also because the whole thing was done within the system, legislatively). Yet, pragmatism can indeed be taken too far. NRA has become infamous among many gun owners for lobbying in OPPOSITION to the spread of permitless CC. I suppose their rationale was a desire not to appear too radical among the legislators they deal with every day. But it's one thing to remain uninvolved in the permitless battles, another thing entirely to oppose them and kill their chance for passage. They have gone down that slippery slope. If one uses the pragmatic approach, it's important to keep the ideal firmly in mind at all times, and recognize when one is on the boundary of being too pragmatic.
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    J3rBear 3 years 5 weeks ago Page Michael Kleen
    It's also important to remember that pragmatism can be a tempting tool that can easily drag one away from rational principles. It is the cliche "slippery slope". We live in a world of moral relativism precisely because people simple do what is practical or what works. And of course, one can substantiate any action by pointing out it's practicalities or effects. I'm very wary of arguments such as the one made above.
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    buzaman 3 years 5 weeks ago
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    Web link Sharon Secor
    Wes's podcast is great. I highly recommend it. The group discussions he has are great. Many of the shows include Brett Veinotte (school sucks podcast) and Daniel Lakemacher (www.warisimmoral.com) as well as a few other people who really round out the show. Each podcast includes detailed show notes (links, youtube videos, etc.) on the podcast page. The Non-Violent Communication work he's been doing over the last 5-7 shows have been fantastic and very educational.