Photos: Private Military Operatives Hired to 'Work' the Boston Marathon with Black Backpacks, Radiation Detectors, Tactical Gear

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KenK's picture

Craft International type "mercenaries" (AKA "private defense agencies") are what all the anarcho/libertarian big-brains say is what can, should, and will replace the state hired police/security forces when the state finally dies. So what's the problem? Well as I responded in another post a few days ago the whacko bird conspiracy theorists all just know (somehow) that it was probably the private security contractors who enabled or even comitted the Boston Massacre. People are never gonna take anarcho/libertarianism seriously as long as that's the accepted narrative. So imagine my surprise when a site like STR links to a progressive themed news story with that exact take on things. Go figure?

Persona non grata's picture

So imagine my surprise when a site like STR links to a progressive themed news story with that exact take on things. Go figure?

Truer words have never been typed by such a cretinous-bigot.

In the world according to KenK we shouldn't give a damn about the veracity of information within a story no, no, no, we should debunk the information based upon the source of the information.  Genius!  What wonderful analytical capacity you enjoy perhaps you should ply it where you can do the most good like breaking down the mornings sports page.

Any fool who clamors for government armed/sanctioned mercenaries to patrol his local home town will get the full blown unaccountable tyranny we can only imagine in our worst nightmares.  

I don't think any of the Craft mercenaries were operating surreptitously at the Boston Marathon while wearing clothing with the Craft logo visible or for that matter dressing in Slapstick Hanson brother fashion wearing matching Black jackets and tan BDU's.  It seems as if they were on site either by fed/state/city government contract.  Although the treasonous turds operating the levers of power within the state have refused to answer any questions in regard to Craft being on site.

Rhetorical question alert:

<RQ>Why would the government knowingly hire a mercenary outfit to police a public event especially in light of the mercenary outfits logo:  "In spite of what your momma told you.... violence does solve problems"?</RQ>

Craft and their mercenary "contractor" ilk are not the type of people rational folks would want operating in a domestic policing capacity within the US.  

   

KenK's picture

Person not welcome: I would have to disagree. I'd hire Craft International in second if I could afford their rates. In your rarified world it's all theory and speculation apparently. As for myself I live in the real world, and my experience has been that the government police are utterly ineffective, ditto the criminal and civil courts. Hard, ass-busting goons like CI would be far more likely to keep the lumpen proles at bay, but at a prohibitive cost, which would be my only consideration.
"Craft and their mercenary "contractor" ilk are not the type of people rational folks would want operating in a domestic policing capacity within the US. "
WTF? Rational people? Define that term for us please. As previously stated, i'd have no trouble with them, or Blackwater, Xe, Academi or CI. My only consdieration would be cost and effectiveness.
Serious question for you: What's the difference between a PDF and a "mercenary outfit" to your way of thinking?

Persona non grata's picture

WTF? Rational people? Define that term for us please. 

"Rational people" are the type of folks that do not go off half-cocked in wishing for Hard, ass-busting goons like CI policing their local home towns .  That is just pure off the wall juvenile irrationality on display.

I'd take sheriff Andy Taylor of Mayberry and officer friendly any day over a mercenary from Craft or their SWAT paramilitary ilk. 

KenK's picture

Person Not Welcome: Okay, I tried to engage you but it's beyond your ability right now. Clearly you can't get beyond your animus and ideology. So, ah, nevermind. Go back to your Nick @ Nite fantasy world.
Over and out for me on this thread.
And as an addendum you are by far the worst of the STR guest editors. And now we can all see why.

Glock27's picture

PERSONA: I am coerced to agree with you. Never let a good crisis go to waste!!

Mark Davis's picture

Well KenK, your self-blinding bias is amusing.  It seems that you missed who hired the mercenaries: The State and the City.  Just like when these States and Cities hire private companies to run their prisons, so-called "privatization", it changes nothing except for a way to make these statist institutions more efficient and save some money.  These hirings do not alter state tyranny or in any way diminish the power of the monopoly on violence doing the hiring.  So whacko progressives who love authoritarian central planning institutions seeking to control everybody for their own good have nothing to fear from from this type of "private defense agency"; it is private in name only and does the bidding of state functionaries.

Glock27's picture

MARK: You and Persona together are very coercive with your facts. I recall a certain subscriber/poster whom mentioned these types of services would be contracted out in a free society. My problem is I do not have any idea what a free society looks like or even feels like. If you think real hard you should have no problem in registering who I am referring too. A sincere question for me: In a free society how would it go about assuring consistent treatment of its members regarding a police type of action? I cannot imagine how it would be accomplished. So I would appreciate a kindly answer; I am not fighting here, just trying to see what duck fits where in a free society. I am currently reading Brownes "Why Government Won't work". In his first book I think he was talking more about inter-personal freedom for the individual.
Done.

Mark Davis's picture

"In a free society how would it go about assuring consistent treatment of its members regarding a police type of action?"
Glock27,
First, it is important to overcome the collectivist mind-set that we have all been brainwashed to view the world from.  Thus a "free society" would not go about doing anything, much less "assuring consistent treatment of its members", because collectives are an illusion.  I think that you've been around here long enough to get what I mean by that; and we all step in that trap on occasion.  A "free society" is simply an expression that refers to a number of individuals that form groups based on cooperation and mutual benefit.  Only individuals can make warrantees as to future performance for any service or good, including security, of which none can be made absolutely.  There is no perfect world, but there can be a better world.
Second, however, contracts can spell out remedies for non-performance.  Socialist police systems do not have remedies for nonperformance; in fact, the courts have established that the state (i.e. the police) is not responsible for protecting individuals.  Voting is a placebo because changing politicians does not change the system.  The purpose of the police is "law enforcement", that is obedience to the state and its arbitrary dictates promulgated by professional liars seeking to win reoccurring popularity contests.  A free market competition in providing protection and security would have the same advantages over socialist police forces that the free market competition in providing other goods and services (e.g. cars, computers, lawn maintenance, food, shelter, haircuts, etc.)  have over the socialist means of providing them.
It is important to remember that freedom requires responsibility for one’s own life, including obtaining both needs and desires.   The state offers to satisfy these needs and desires for individuals if they obey and follow the state’s rules, even as its agents go about breaking those same rules.  Just as there is no assurance that the food you will purchase at the local supermarket will satisfy your hunger or tastes, the competition in a free market will tend to lead to conditions that better satisfy your hunger and tastes than a central planning authority using institutionalized violence could ever possibly hope to do.  Security is subject to the same laws of economics that other goods and services are.  Basically, an economic system providing choices is better than a political system saying take it or leave it. 
I hope this helps.

Glock27's picture

MARK: Thanks for your response and so soon. What you have shared seems solid to me and it has helped to put some things in perspective for me. I am hoping to save this to refer to and go over because I don't know where all these posts hide at. In part I am getting a sense of "good luck" in seeing such a event ever happening. I get the feeling from what you have said that you also possibly carry doubts of such a life to evolve. Evolve must be the key element. Not now, nor tomorrow or next week or next year, but sometime, hopefully such a society will eventualize. (sp).
I hope you will have no objection, but at some point again I may wish to avail myself to your knowledge. Much of what you have said I have fairly deduced to some degree but what you have shared has helped me a lot in grasping the fundamental idea, I think.

Mark Davis's picture

My pleasure Glock.  You are correct that this is about process and evolution, on every level.  You understand more than you know you understand.  I'll be around; keep thinking for yourself.

Glock27's picture

MARK: Thanks again. Your phrase "keep thinking for yourself" seems to be the most crucial. Again thanks.

KenK's picture

Mark: Glad I could help. Your writings and comments have been amusing me for a long time.

Mark Davis's picture

KenK, I do appreciate you're admitting to being a Troll, because that does save me from wasting more time on you.  So, I guess if you have been reading STR "for a long time" and are still vehemently opposed to the philosophy of liberty, then: "Okay, I tried to engage you but it's beyond your ability right now. Clearly you can't get beyond your animus and ideology. So, ah, nevermind. Go back to your Nick @ Nite fantasy world.  Over and out for me on this thread."

Glock27's picture

Mark: I had my own suspicions as well.

KenK's picture

Mark: I call bullshit on that one. I have never "admitted to being a troll", and I say here and now that every thing I write in the comments at STR is put forward in good faith. The issue here is that you and Person Not Welcome and some others just don't like to be questioned or challeged on matters of anarcho-libertarian ideology and it shows.